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Retrieve parent of subclip 9 months, 1 week ago #170849

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How can I retrieve (reveal, pop out) the parent clip of a subclip without inserting the subclip into a sequence and using "Pop out original"?

I'm searching for a way to do it efficiently during ingest.



Edit: I posted willingly into bugs, the answers will show if it was correctly.


Moderated: You may have posted "willingly" into the Bugs forum, but the term that I would have used is wilfully. You know that the "Bugs" forum is intended for bugs. Just because Lightworks doesn't have a feature that you think is desirable doesn't mean that it's a bug. You seem overly fond of identifying these sort of issues as bugs. I have moved this where it belongs - jwrl.
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Re: Retrieve parent of subclip 9 months, 1 week ago #170857

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What is the purpose of the action?
If you used mark and park to create the subclip, grab the original from the clips directory. It should still have the i/o marked unless there is more than one subclip associated with it.
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Re: Retrieve parent of subclip 9 months, 1 week ago #170859

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What a question - I have too much clips in the project to be able to find the parent of the subclip in the bins, so I wish to push the button to reveal without creating a sequence from subclip.
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Re: Retrieve parent of subclip 9 months, 1 week ago #170875

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Sounds like a reasonable feature request.
Not an issue I've run into.
Just wondered about the context.
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Re: Retrieve parent of subclip 9 months, 1 week ago #170877

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Jwrl,

Seeing that you have moved this discussion from Bugs to Editing leads me to the conclusion that there was never a command to reveal parent from subclip?
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Re: Retrieve parent of subclip 9 months, 1 week ago #170885

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I can't recall it - if it ever existed I have obviously never had need of it. But quoting past versions to decide on the presence or absence of a bug is pointless. I could as easily claim that the lack of consolidation is a bug. It isn't. The decision to drop it for whatever reason was a design decision, not a bug.
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Re: Retrieve parent of subclip 9 months, 1 week ago #170886

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In my case the original shot name and the reel ID name are the same. If I pull multiple subclips from a long shot, each renamed, I can find the original by opening the subclip file card, copy the real ID and do a search on that field.
Don't know if that would be useful or apply to metadata tags in your originals but maybe you can find a way to use a metadata search.
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Re: Retrieve parent of subclip 9 months, 1 week ago #170890

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Because the current process of "Pop out original" of subclips, etc. can cause crashes, the developers have to deal with it anyway, I think.
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Re: Retrieve parent of subclip 9 months, 1 week ago #170892

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Good call.

Re: Retrieve parent of subclip 9 months, 1 week ago #170904

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David Rasberry wrote:
In my case the original shot name and the reel ID name are the same. If I pull multiple subclips from a long shot, each renamed, I can find the original by opening the subclip file card, copy the real ID and do a search on that field.
Don't know if that would be useful or apply to metadata tags in your originals but maybe you can find a way to use a metadata search.

Matadata search, that does it. It isn't exact the one step operation I was looking for, but I don't have duplicate reel-IDs in this project and it's definitely faster from Log mode than creating a temporary sequence from a single clip and switch modes just in order to reveal parent.

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Re: Retrieve parent of subclip 9 months, 1 week ago #170922

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Yeah, it would be nice to highlight a field in the file card, or ctrl/click multiple selections and do a right click contextual search right there.
Got to looking at this more in depth after you raised the subject.
In the main clips menu list mode you can customize the selection and order of metadata tags, but these do not carry over consistently in the same order to the file card in tiles mode. That to me is a bug.
But this is potentially a very powerful tool.
For instance one search that I would find extremely useful is tagging scene ID and rushrolls as either A for main shots and B for cutaways. Reach a point in your sequence where you need a cutaway and tag search for scene and B roll. Voila, all you B roll shots pop up. Note: one can pop up the file card under reveal from any point in sequence.
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Last Edit: 9 months, 1 week ago by David Rasberry.
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