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outright license - what's the deal? 7 months, 2 weeks ago #163403

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I was exploring the different options for upgrading to Lightworks Pro:

www.lwks.com/index.php?option=com_shop&view=shop&Itemid=205

The table seems to indicate that the Outright license ($437.99) is NOT entitled to major updates (such as from 14 to 15). This strikes me as non-intuitive. Could someone please explain this policy? ...and/or clarify what the user is entitled to (re: ongoing updates) with an outright license?

Thanks, Jeff.

Re: outright license - what's the deal? 7 months, 2 weeks ago #163405

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Compare it with Microsoft Windows.

If you've purchased a Windows 7 license you'll get all the updates for Windows 7 for free.

If you wish to use Windows 10 you have to purchase a new license.

I believe if you wish to keep up to date, the year license is the better buy, but that's only my view.
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Re: outright license - what's the deal? 7 months, 2 weeks ago #163406

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What is the usual time lapse between major releases? Say from 14 to 15? Is it a 2 year gap? 3? This would help evaluate the better plan. Thanks.

Re: outright license - what's the deal? 7 months, 2 weeks ago #163407

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afaik you get an "upgrade price", you won't have to pay the whole amount again (?)

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Re: outright license - what's the deal? 7 months, 2 weeks ago #163408

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Welcome to the forum.

This arrangement is pretty standard for NLEs and other software that you purchase, rather than have an annual or monthly subscription license. This is the traditional business model for software, which operated for many years before the subscription model came into favour.

Basically you have an outright license for the version you've purchased you can then upgrade to the next version(eg V14 to V15) for a smaller amount (I think it's $99). You are entitled to all the updates to the version you have the outright license for, eg V14 to V14.1.

The time between versions varies, it's usually around 18 months, although a year could be possible if new features are ready to go anf are thought to warrant a new version. However, you can still use your outright licensed version and not upgrade. If it does what you want, there's no reason to upgrade.
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Re: outright license - what's the deal? 7 months, 2 weeks ago #163409

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lghtwrks: care to give a ball park figure for the outright license upgrade price to make the transition to a new full release?

Re: outright license - what's the deal? 7 months, 2 weeks ago #163411

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Thanks for answering my question. Can you tell me the usual time between major releases? (eg between 14 and 15). Thanks
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Re: outright license - what's the deal? 7 months, 2 weeks ago #163412

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The outright license is there for users who don't like the subscription model, they always buy their software outright and won't use subscription only software.

Re: outright license - what's the deal? 7 months, 2 weeks ago #163414

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Can you tell me the usual time between major releases? (eg between 14 and 15). Thanks

Re: outright license - what's the deal? 7 months, 2 weeks ago #163415

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Release notes page lists versions back to 12.01

www.lwks.com/index.php?option=com_lwks&view=changelog&Itemid=207&id=245

I don't know what was before and particularly I don't know what the future will bring.
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Re: outright license - what's the deal? 7 months, 2 weeks ago #163416

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I found this version history on the internet.


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Please note: Probalbly V14 was released comparably late (6 months, maybe more?) because
Lightworks developers were engaged in another Editshare project and test duration was comparably long due to major changes.
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Re: outright license - what's the deal? 7 months, 2 weeks ago #163434

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AFAIK the upgrade cost for an outright purchase license is the same as a one year license.
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Re: outright license - what's the deal? 7 months, 2 weeks ago #163435

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Good to know. Am I to understand also that after I pay for the upgrade for an Outright license (to get access to the next major update, i.e. a new series...say 14 to 15), I'll get continuous updates for the entire new series, even if that series lasts longer than a single year?

Re: outright license - what's the deal? 7 months, 2 weeks ago #163436

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From FAQ:

"The Buy Outright license does not have an expiry date. Once activated, the software will no longer need an internet connection and can be used indefinitely. The license comes with two activations (the same is true for Lightworks Pro Monthly and Yearly). The second activation is a 'reserve', to help in situations where you need to upgrade your machine, or move your license from one system to another.

The Buy Outright license will only work for the current release version available, which at the moment is version 14. This includes all version 14 releases. This means the version 14 Outright license will not work with version 15 of Lightworks when that becomes available, users will need to upgrade their license to version 15 by paying an upgrade fee."

It's an outright license that has been upgraded.

Re: outright license - what's the deal? 7 months, 2 weeks ago #163437

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I understood from your previous remark that paying an amount equal to a yearly license took the Ouright license to the new series level. No?
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