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Need to run Lightworks on MacBook Pro, OS 10.6.8, mid-2010 7,1 build 4 years, 7 months ago #87963

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How do I get an older version circa that era? Or any way to force Lightworks to install on my config?

Attachment macbook pro config.tiff not found

Re: Need to run Lightworks on MacBook Pro, OS 10.6.8, mid-2010 7,1 build 4 years, 6 months ago #88097

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You need to be running at least Mac OS 10.8 (Mountain Lion) to use LW on a Mac.
I work in Manhattan, USA, but at night I cross the waters to sleep in Brooklyn, USA.

Also, post production is not an afterthought!

Re: Need to run Lightworks on MacBook Pro, OS 10.6.8, mid-2010 7,1 build 4 years, 6 months ago #88153

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It is very likely that a 2010 Macbook Pro is not beefy enough to run Lightworks efficiently. You need an up to date OS. You need at least two hard drives, your system drive and a separate dedicated drive for media that is mounted internally via SATA or externally via E-sata, USB3 or Thunderbolt. You need at least 4GB of ram. You also need an Nvidia or ATI GPU chipset with at least 512MB dedicated ram for editing HD video.
My old dual drive Toshiba laptop, 2009 model, but running up to date Win7 64 bit OS will not edit even 720p HD video smoothly in Lightworks. It will edit SD video from my Canon DV camcorder
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Workstation: Intel i7-4770k, Asrock Z87 Thunderbolt 2 MB, 16GB 1866 DDR3 ram,
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Re: Need to run Lightworks on MacBook Pro, OS 10.6.8, mid-2010 7,1 build 4 years, 6 months ago #88154

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Thanks, very helpful. Pasting some stats below: good enough to run short 1920x1080 footage through Premiere Elements 10?

Hardware Overview:

Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro7,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 16 GB
Bus Speed: 1.07 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MBP71.0039.B0B
SMC Version (system): 1.62f7

USB High-Speed Bus:

Host Controller Location: Built-in USB
Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBEHCI
PCI Device ID: 0x0d9d
PCI Revision ID: 0x00a2
PCI Vendor ID: 0x10de
Bus Number: 0x26

Internal Memory Card Reader:

Product ID: 0x8403
Vendor ID: 0x05ac (Apple Inc.)
Version: 98.33
Serial Number: 000000009833
Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
Manufacturer: Apple
Location ID: 0x26100000 / 2
Current Available (mA): 500
Current Required (mA): 500

NVIDIA GeForce 320M:

Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce 320M
Type: GPU
Bus: PCI
VRAM (Total): 256 MB
Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
Device ID: 0x08a0
Revision ID: 0x00a2
ROM Revision: 3533
Displays:
Color LCD:
Resolution: 1280 x 800
Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Built-In: Yes
Display Connector:
Status: No Display Connected

FireWire Bus:

Maximum Speed: Up to 800 Mb/sec

Re: Need to run Lightworks on MacBook Pro, OS 10.6.8, mid-2010 7,1 build 4 years, 6 months ago #88155

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You might be OK with an updated OS, if Apple supports that. An external drive bay with FW800 interface will work OK for a dedicated media drive. The bottleneck will be the GPU. It is on my laptop. You will be able to do simple editing, perhaps up to 720p HD, in professional broadcast grade all i-frame codecs like Prores, DNXHD, or HDCAM, but common compressed HD camera codecs like various flavors of MPeg4/AVC won't edit in LW without a powerful GPU. 1GB is the recommended minimum GPU ram configuration and this is not enough for realtime 1080p H.264/AVC. You could also do reduced resolution SD proxies for editing and relink to original HD media for finished export. Craig Marshall has posted much about this process.
Lightworks originated as a "heavy iron" dedicated hardware suite editing system for the broadcast TV and feature film industry. It works best with high powered professional graphics grade workstations.
Razz

Digital Bolex 2k Cinema DNG raw camera
Canon GL2 DV camcorder
iPAD Mini 3 Iographer rig

Workstation: Intel i7-4770k, Asrock Z87 Thunderbolt 2 MB, 16GB 1866 DDR3 ram,
2TB Seagate Hybrid system drive, 2TB Seagate NAS media drive, E-sata III hot swap drive bay, Nvidia GTX760 2GB GPU
Lightworks kybrd. Shuttlepro v2
Win10 Pro 64bit, Lightworks 14.0 64bit

Mobile Workstation: MSI GTX72 Dominator
Intel i7-6700HQ 2.7GHz Win10 64bit
16GB DDR4 ram, 500GB M.2 SSD
Nvidia GTX970 3GB GPU
USB3, USB3.1-C, Thunderbolt 3 ports
Shuttlepro2 Win10 64bit LW 14.0 64 bit
Last Edit: 4 years, 6 months ago by David Rasberry.

Re: Need to run Lightworks on MacBook Pro, OS 10.6.8, mid-2010 7,1 build 4 years, 6 months ago #88157

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Again, very helpful, thanks! I dunno, I'm halfway thinking about parking this laptop and jumping into something new (maybe refurbished to save some $$). I'm heading overseas for a year or two and want to do be able to do some very light editing for shorts and stock footage uploads, but I want to stay as small and cheap as possible. I just left behind a really big set of toys at my last job (super fast current big box Windows editing bay with always-updated Adobe CS suite, working in Premiere and Photoshop primarily). Can I pick your brain once more? If you were yourself buying something good for the next two years ... but also cheap ... to do *light* editing of AVCHD hidef footage ... running let's say Premiere Elements 13 ... what would you buy for yourself on the Apple side? (I say Apple because I do appreciate the lower viral threat on that platform).

Re: Need to run Lightworks on MacBook Pro, OS 10.6.8, mid-2010 7,1 build 4 years, 6 months ago #88159

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rollsaco wrote:
I say Apple because I do appreciate the lower viral threat on that platform

That isn't necessarily the case. There's quite a collection of exploits that render a Mac vulnerable. Mind you, the advertising doesn't say that!

If you're comfortable with Windows you will definitely get more bang for your buck with a Windows-based laptop. And if you're travelling, any repairs necessary are likely to be cheaper and more readily available.

There's a wider collection of low-cost and free support software available on the Windows side, too.

Re: Need to run Lightworks on MacBook Pro, OS 10.6.8, mid-2010 7,1 build 4 years, 6 months ago #88161

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All good thoughts, esp. about repairs on the road + support software. True! (My experience with viruses -- or not -- for 10+ years on Mac platform has been encouraging).

Re: Need to run Lightworks on MacBook Pro, OS 10.6.8, mid-2010 7,1 build 4 years, 6 months ago #88163

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I have been very satisfied with the two Toshiba Satellites I have owned over the last 14 years. Mine were both purchased as audio engineering workstations for field use, though I have used the one in my sig below, now 7 years old, with Lightworks since the original beta 10 release. Replaced battery twice and power supply twice, upgraded to 7200 RPM drives (has two internal)and Win 7 64Bit from the original Vista. Still works fine within its limits. We have mostly Dells and HP's at work and I really don't like them. I run Norton 360 for security and machine maintenance. Never an issue with malware.
Found this one on Newegg that could run Lightworks much better than mine does. Probably handle AVCHD OK. Swap the system drive for an SSD and add an external USB3 drive for media it would rock pretty well for not much bucks. www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834216800&cm_re=toshiba_laptop-_-34-216-800-_-Product.
Coming from Adobe CS, you would get frustrated with Elements. All the consumer bling gets in the way of efficient editing. I hated it. Switched to Lightworks and haven't looked back. Vastly superior for simple editing with modest effects. Everything needed in one program. Recommend adding the Contour Shuttlepro 2 for the full Lightworks experience. That would make a pretty nice mobile platform all around.
Razz

Digital Bolex 2k Cinema DNG raw camera
Canon GL2 DV camcorder
iPAD Mini 3 Iographer rig

Workstation: Intel i7-4770k, Asrock Z87 Thunderbolt 2 MB, 16GB 1866 DDR3 ram,
2TB Seagate Hybrid system drive, 2TB Seagate NAS media drive, E-sata III hot swap drive bay, Nvidia GTX760 2GB GPU
Lightworks kybrd. Shuttlepro v2
Win10 Pro 64bit, Lightworks 14.0 64bit

Mobile Workstation: MSI GTX72 Dominator
Intel i7-6700HQ 2.7GHz Win10 64bit
16GB DDR4 ram, 500GB M.2 SSD
Nvidia GTX970 3GB GPU
USB3, USB3.1-C, Thunderbolt 3 ports
Shuttlepro2 Win10 64bit LW 14.0 64 bit

Re: Need to run Lightworks on MacBook Pro, OS 10.6.8, mid-2010 7,1 build 4 years, 6 months ago #88164

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This is a short video I did to unwind after a tree fell on our house Tuesday during the ice storm. Total time including grading and transcoding the DNG raw footage in Resolve, finding the free music online, and finishing in Lightworks only was about 4 hours. I'm not a particularly efficient editor. Spent a couple of pleasant hours swapping shots around and adjusting the edit to the music. Titles and FX are all native to Lightworks.
I've worked with Premiere Pro and Elements, had short training workshops for Avid and FCP some years ago at NAB. For me Lightworks just clicked. I love this program.
Razz

Digital Bolex 2k Cinema DNG raw camera
Canon GL2 DV camcorder
iPAD Mini 3 Iographer rig

Workstation: Intel i7-4770k, Asrock Z87 Thunderbolt 2 MB, 16GB 1866 DDR3 ram,
2TB Seagate Hybrid system drive, 2TB Seagate NAS media drive, E-sata III hot swap drive bay, Nvidia GTX760 2GB GPU
Lightworks kybrd. Shuttlepro v2
Win10 Pro 64bit, Lightworks 14.0 64bit

Mobile Workstation: MSI GTX72 Dominator
Intel i7-6700HQ 2.7GHz Win10 64bit
16GB DDR4 ram, 500GB M.2 SSD
Nvidia GTX970 3GB GPU
USB3, USB3.1-C, Thunderbolt 3 ports
Shuttlepro2 Win10 64bit LW 14.0 64 bit
Last Edit: 4 years, 6 months ago by David Rasberry.

Re: Need to run Lightworks on MacBook Pro, OS 10.6.8, mid-2010 7,1 build 4 years, 6 months ago #88166

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Nice! This winter has indeed been a horrorshow

Thanks again for all of your time and info, very helpful!

Re: Need to run Lightworks on MacBook Pro, OS 10.6.8, mid-2010 7,1 build 4 years, 6 months ago #88218

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David Rasberry wrote:
This is a short video I did to unwind after a tree fell on our house Tuesday during the ice storm.

I love the thrown away nature of that line! David, the words "tree fell" and "house" really shouldn't go together. Especially when you include "ice storm". I trust that everyone is OK?

Re: Need to run Lightworks on MacBook Pro, OS 10.6.8, mid-2010 7,1 build 4 years, 6 months ago #88230

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jwrl wrote:
David Rasberry wrote:
This is a short video I did to unwind after a tree fell on our house Tuesday during the ice storm.

I love the thrown away nature of that line! David, the words "tree fell" and "house" really shouldn't go together. Especially when you include "ice storm". I trust that everyone is OK?


We were lucky. It fell on the oldest part of the house, a 1930's WPA cabin built out of stout yellow pine timbers. No structural damage or interior damage, just a few holes in the roof. Rude awakening at 4AM though.
Razz

Digital Bolex 2k Cinema DNG raw camera
Canon GL2 DV camcorder
iPAD Mini 3 Iographer rig

Workstation: Intel i7-4770k, Asrock Z87 Thunderbolt 2 MB, 16GB 1866 DDR3 ram,
2TB Seagate Hybrid system drive, 2TB Seagate NAS media drive, E-sata III hot swap drive bay, Nvidia GTX760 2GB GPU
Lightworks kybrd. Shuttlepro v2
Win10 Pro 64bit, Lightworks 14.0 64bit

Mobile Workstation: MSI GTX72 Dominator
Intel i7-6700HQ 2.7GHz Win10 64bit
16GB DDR4 ram, 500GB M.2 SSD
Nvidia GTX970 3GB GPU
USB3, USB3.1-C, Thunderbolt 3 ports
Shuttlepro2 Win10 64bit LW 14.0 64 bit
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