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PC upgrade or new PC? 3 months, 2 weeks ago #170767

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Hi all,

I have a Dell Latitude E5530 notebook (i5 CPU, 8G RAM, standard HDD, integrated video card).
I can not decide that I upgrade my notebook with SSD and RAM or I buy a new notebook (i7 CPU, 16G RAM, SSD, dedicated video card).
Upgrade cost is 260 EUR, new notebook is 850-1200 EUR.

Currently my notebook sometimes slow with LW but for my job is good (remote system administration).

What do you think?
Thank you!

Re: PC upgrade or new PC? 3 months, 2 weeks ago #170774

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Buy a new computer. Definitely.
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Re: PC upgrade or new PC? 3 months, 2 weeks ago #170820

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To upgrade, or not to upgrade, that is a difficult question for private use. The most difficult decision is to doubtlessly define one's personal need for speed in relation to the money spent, isn't it?
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Re: PC upgrade or new PC? 3 months, 2 weeks ago #170825

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Upgrade is definitely worth it if you have the budget. Get one with a USB3.1C/ thunderbolt 3 port for external media expansion and you have plenty of bandwidth for external raid or media drives. The MSI in my sig below outperforms my older desktop system with a RAID 0 array attached. I'm running 6TB of external drives on it now.
If you shop around when the latest gen systems first hit the market, you can find really good deals on the ones being replaced.
Mine was $1800 originally and I got it for $1150.00 on sale.
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Re: PC upgrade or new PC? 3 months, 2 weeks ago #170828

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Thank you guys!
I have money to a new notebook, so it is not problem. But obviously if you can save money then why not.
I think I will buy a new computer. Thank you

Re: PC upgrade or new PC? 3 months, 2 weeks ago #170845

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Re: PC upgrade or new PC? 3 months, 1 week ago #171076

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I'm very much in the same boat regarding an upgrade/new laptop. What is the bare minimum spec for a laptop when using LWKs? Any particular video card to look out for etc?

Re: PC upgrade or new PC? 3 months, 1 week ago #171078

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Because NLE's operate on "alien data" (video material) with extremely differing demands in terms of computer resources, there can't be "bare minimum specs" without taking the footage which will be used and the complexity of edits under consideration, paired with your demand for speed of rendering processes. The Invention of internal proxies with V14.0 made this rule even more fuzzier.
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Re: PC upgrade or new PC? 3 months, 1 week ago #171080

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I see... So. let's say I was using mainly 1080 footage from a smartphone, using lots of short clips to make a 4 minute film and using a single line of video with a few FX. I would be using Eye Converter to make proxies. Any idea of the laptop's spec? Quick rendering of 1080 would be nice. At the moment rendering a 4 min video to YouTube spec using HD clips can take 10 minutes or more - depends how much I wind up the Lenovo

On the subject of Eye Converter... There are many options to choose from. What are the smallest? My old laptop struggles a bit with MPEG 2 proxy quarter size - and the name of that format is the only one I understand.

Re: PC upgrade or new PC? 3 months, 1 week ago #171082

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Why the smallest? It will be the slowest.

Would you mind posting the details of your Lenovo computer (OS version, CPU, RAM, GPU, VRAM, type and size of internal hard drive and drive(s) used for media)?
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Re: PC upgrade or new PC? 3 months, 1 week ago #171092

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If you use a smartphone has your primary camera, do yourself a favor and install one of the pro video camera apps. The best ones let you set and shoot at a constant frame rate that can be loaded directly into Lightworks and edited without transcoding. Saves a ton of headaches and shoots better quality video too.
www.smartphonefilmpro.com/what-are-the-best-video-camera-apps-for-smartphone-2017/
Put your phone into airplane mode to prevent network activity or incoming calls from corrupting the recordings.
You can use the proxy features in lightworks 14 if you need them.
I would say the minimum laptop would be a current gen I5 with at least 8GB ram and either Nvidia or AMD dedicated GPU chipset with 2GB video ram. USB3 or 3.1C ports for external dedicated media drives.
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Digital Bolex 2k Cinema DNG raw camera
Canon GL2 DV camcorder
iPAD Mini 3 Iographer rig

Workstation: Intel i7-4770k, Asrock Z87 Thunderbolt 2 MB, 16GB 1866 DDR3 ram,
2TB Seagate Hybrid system drive, 2TB Seagate NAS media drive, E-sata III hot swap drive bay, Nvidia GTX760 2GB GPU
Lightworks kybrd. Shuttlepro v2
Win10 Pro 64bit, Lightworks 14.0 64bit

Mobile Workstation: MSI GTX72 Dominator
Intel i7-6700HQ 2.7GHz Win10 64bit
16GB DDR4 ram, 500GB M.2 SSD
Nvidia GTX970 3GB GPU
USB3, USB3.1-C, Thunderbolt 3 ports
Shuttlepro2 Win10 64bit LW 14.0 64 bit

Re: PC upgrade or new PC? 3 months, 1 week ago #171093

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The other end of the story, Lightworks will of course run well on Nuke certified hardware, but it's possible to upgrade even this for higher performance:

Windows 10. Nuke Studio 11.0 is compatible with the following certified components with an HP Z840.

Processor2 x Intel Xeon E5-2687Wv3 CPU

RAM128GB DDR4-2133 (8x16GB) 2CPU Registered RAM

Internal system drives1 x HP Z Turbo Drive G2 256GB PCIe

GPUNVIDIA Quadro M6000 12GB

Video monitor outputAJA Kona 4K or BMD DeckLink 4K Extreme 12G

Realtime playback is currently tested with the following internal storage accessories:

Drives8 x Samsung SM863 960GB

Dock2 x HP B8K60AA - 4 Bay SSD carrier

Raid cardLSI Megaraid ROC 9270-8i

Raid cable2 x Avago 05-26113-00 0.6 Meter internal cable SFF8643 To X4 SATA HDD (MINI SAS HD)

Raid typeRAID 5, Always write-through, with a 256k Stripe size


The rule of thumb, on a workstation type computer (with desktop components) you'll get more bang for the bug buck ($$ $$) than on mobile devices.

www.foundry.com/products/nuke/requirements
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