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Best de-noise options? 1 year, 3 months ago #135074

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I have footage shot on an epic red dragon in 6K. The lighting was not what it should have been. The DP pushed in color correct too far and there is clearly noise all over the shots.

What are my best options to de-noise both still grabs and the footage?

I've never run into this much post noise before and the DP keeps saying just to "de-noise" it like I can somehow get details back from non-existent information. How do I get the most back that I can? I was told "Neat Video" was the best route, but that does not work with Lwks.

Thanks ahead of time!
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Re: Best de-noise options? 1 year, 3 months ago #135075

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denoise on the timeline is most often not the way to go.
use the stand alone version of neat video or have a look at boris.
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Re: Best de-noise options? 1 year, 3 months ago #135078

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I didn't think Neat Video had a standalone. Does it?
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Re: Best de-noise options? 1 year, 3 months ago #135079

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sry, right. was n. image.
but using with virtual dub is also more or less stand alone ,-)
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Re: Best de-noise options? 1 year, 3 months ago #135084

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From memory, you should be able to do noise reduction in REDCINE. It's a while since I've dealt with RED media but I'm reasonably sure that you could de-noise as part of the conversion/output process.
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Re: Best de-noise options? 1 year, 3 months ago #135089

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if you still have the origin. footage of course this would be best. seems the settings are already on "max" NR?

Re: Best de-noise options? 1 year, 3 months ago #135090

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Blackmagic Fusion 8 comes also with noise reduction in the free version.

Resolve seems to have a very good tool with 12.5 paid version.

How do I get the most back that I can?


Noise reduction will never bring details back. All software I'm aware of smoothes more or less luma and chroma artifacts with some kind of blurring or interpolation. In any case you will loose details and going too far makes pictures look "plastic".

Sometime (night shots, low key) it can be helpful to add a bit of grain to noisy picture to make them look like pushed high Iso film material without noise reduction.

Or like this, quick and dirty with Lightworks effects:

www.lwks.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=27&id=125635&Itemid=81#125691
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Re: Best de-noise options? 1 year, 3 months ago #135091

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Cool. I will try Redcine and maybe DaVinci, or look into Virtual Dub and Neat Video. I have access to the original footage so for at least some stills to test, I was going to use the raw footage and see what happens.

Thank you!
17" MacbookPro8,3
2 HD (1 OWC SSD, 1 7200 RPM)
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running: LW Pro 12.6.0
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