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Re: Imported Video is upside down 1 year, 9 months ago #185036

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@Chris D -- They are separated to avoid confusion. There is is "Flip" and there is a "Flop."
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Re: Imported Video is upside down 1 year, 9 months ago #185037

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I do not see this screen. Thanks for trying to help, but maybe I'm just an idiot. I cannot find this on my version.

Re: Imported Video is upside down 1 year, 9 months ago #185039

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This is what I see. There is no other option or dropdown menu
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Re: Imported Video is upside down 1 year, 9 months ago #185040

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You are still in the "Favourites" category.
Change to "DVE".
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Re: Imported Video is upside down 1 year, 9 months ago #185041

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@Chris -- It has been explained to me many times -- It is better that wisdom come late than never come at all.

I'm assuming you are using the Fixed layout of the latest LWKS beta.

Within your project, where I'm also assuming your footage is on the timeline and appears wrong side up, click VFX at the top.

Click on the "+" at top left.

Look then at what is across from "Category." You are currently in Favorites. Hit the Dropdown arrow and select DVE.

In the options for DVE, select FLIP.

With the Playhead [red vertical bar on the timeline] within your clip, select "Current Clip," then click "Apply Effect."

The clip will flip.
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Re: Imported Video is upside down 1 year, 9 months ago #185042

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OMG! Thank you. Your explanation is perfect. I'm sorry I'm so daft. I had tried so many times to find that. The learning curve here is steep for me. I am still trying to figure out what's where. I see it now. Thanks so much for your time and your patience.

Re: Imported Video is upside down 1 year, 9 months ago #185043

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@Briandrys – In a response above you say to apply the Flip, then “Make a print using the timeline menu and use that as a source for your edit.”

What is the virtue of using the print as source?

Thanks!

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Re: Imported Video is upside down 1 year, 9 months ago #185044

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Just so that you flip or flop everything at the same time.

Re: Imported Video is upside down 1 year, 9 months ago #185045

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Thanks! Thought it MIGHT be that editing the print would require less CPU power [not really important in this simple case, but maybe important in more complex instances].
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Re: Imported Video is upside down 1 year, 9 months ago #185053

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I also strongly recommend that if this is an ongoing problem for you, use the user effect that I wrote to do both a flip and a flop at the same time. You need both to correct this problem, and applying two effects where one will do the job will increase the resources used. You will note that fishmonger, one of the Lightworks developers, recommends its use in post #174950, so you should be able to use it with confidence. He even provides a link to it (which I have just updated to point to the most recent version, by the way).

You will find instructions on how to install user effects here.

The way that I would approach this would be to edit all of the offending shots together end to end, than apply a flip-flop effect to the lot. I would then turn that into a print and use the print everywhere I needed those shots. You will be able to see your shots the right way up as you work with them.
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Re: Imported Video is upside down 1 year ago #200514

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I understand all the solutions presented, but this should be fixed, or simpler. As someone trialing this software, this is too much work before I even get started. Other software did not have this issue, and I was up and running far quicker.

Please fix this or I won't be continuing the trial.

Re: Imported Video is upside down 1 year ago #200515

This has been fixed in V 14.6 beta version.
But the simplest solution is to hold the phone or tablet in the correct orientation for video. Then the problem doesn’t occur.
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Re: Imported Video is upside down 1 year ago #200533

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ptsmh wrote:
Please fix this or I won't be continuing the trial.

What you should understand is that this is a user forum. Making threats here is just threatening other users. Second, even if one of the developers picks this up, any changes made will be in the next release. At the moment that is in early beta testing but is by no means ready for release yet.

If you decide to join the beta program to address this issue, just be aware that beta testing is used to find the inevitable bugs any new development brings. It may address that particular problem but give you others instead.
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Re: Imported Video is upside down 1 year ago #200542

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David Rasberry wrote:

But the simplest solution is to hold the phone or tablet in the correct orientation for video. Then the problem doesn’t occur.

Easier said than done. Most of my scuba videos are on a pole stick with the gopro upside down for natural balancing of its weight when shooting forwards. And then reverse momentarily for the few seconds of selfie shooting.

Just on the side - I find having to go into VFX with the multi-step process cumbersome. but I guess that's the way with almost any advanced color grading NLE. In any case since a large section of pole videos are unusable and shaky I've decided to do the sub-clips and Cineform conversion in GoPro Studio which has a one click flip-flop button in the import stage/menu, before importing the transcoded AVI into LWKs. This way I save on the processing time in transcoding the entire mp4 clip into Cineform when importing into LWKs, just to discard large portions of it later.

Just wanted to mention an unavoidable use-case for having upside down videos.
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Re: Imported Video is upside down 1 year ago #200544

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@G0bble - since you're registered as a beta tester I'd be interested in hearing if you can manage without any preprocessing now using the auto-rotate feature and perhaps proxy workflow if your material is too hi-res to play smoothly?
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