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Anybody notice BMD have finally released a 'Console' for Resolve? 3 months, 2 weeks ago #228716

  • Craig Marshall
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I get the impression the people behind DaVinci Resolve development have been watching Lightworks closely for some time. First, they 'discovered' the benefits of Clip trimming, then introduced the 'Cut' page which seemed very familiar to Lightworks uses and now there's Speed Editor, a stylish Jog/Shuttle device which looks like it will engender a remarkably similar workflow to my beloved Sony BVE tape edit controllers from the 1990s.

Regular readers know I always edit in Lightworks but mostly finish in Resolve so this new dedicated device at just US$295 including a Resolve 'Studio' license looks like a bargain indeed.

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Re: Anybody notice BMD have finally released a 'Console' for Resolve? 3 months, 2 weeks ago #228718

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It's been noticed, Craig. See here.

Re: Anybody notice BMD have finally released a 'Console' for Resolve? 3 months, 2 weeks ago #228749

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Craig Marshall wrote:
Regular readers know I always edit in Lightworks but mostly finish in Resolve so this new dedicated device at just US$295 including a Resolve 'Studio' license looks like a bargain indeed.

Some may call the price for that bundle crazy, others an aggressive strategy of product introduction, for me it's just another sign that they consider the software to be a carrier for their hardware sales. If this strategy works, good for them, but highly destructive for those who have to live from selling competing software.
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Re: Anybody notice BMD have finally released a 'Console' for Resolve? 3 months, 2 weeks ago #228754

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Craig Marshall wrote:
I get the impression the people behind DaVinci Resolve development have been watching Lightworks closely for some time. First, they 'discovered' the benefits of Clip trimming, then introduced the 'Cut' page which seemed very familiar to Lightworks uses

Totally.
In this release they also completely copied Multicam Bins and Live Editing.
I like Lightworks.

Re: Anybody notice BMD have finally released a 'Console' for Resolve? 3 months, 2 weeks ago #228755

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To understand the Cut page, one has to edit a few days with it, which I did. It's obviously intended to be used for short form with fast turn arround, but it is by no means similar to typical Lightworks workflows. I'm not sure what it is inspired by, but it shows elements known from linear editing.
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Last Edit: 3 months, 2 weeks ago by hugly.

Re: Anybody notice BMD have finally released a 'Console' for Resolve? 3 months, 2 weeks ago #228815

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"In this release they also completely copied Multicam Bins and Live Editing."

Indeed. In fact my suggestion of same on the BMD forum was immediately deleted by the Moderator. "Thou shalt not speak with forked tongue"
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Re: Anybody notice BMD have finally released a 'Console' for Resolve? 1 month, 4 weeks ago #231504

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Craig Marshall wrote:
I get the impression the people behind DaVinci Resolve development have been watching Lightworks closely for some time. First, they 'discovered' the benefits of Clip trimming, then introduced the 'Cut' page which seemed very familiar to Lightworks uses and now there's Speed Editor, a stylish Jog/Shuttle device which looks like it will engender a remarkably similar workflow to my beloved Sony BVE tape edit controllers from the 1990s.

Regular readers know I always edit in Lightworks but mostly finish in Resolve so this new dedicated device at just US$295 including a Resolve 'Studio' license looks like a bargain indeed.

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And just one look at that photo, clearly shows why the Lightworks Console is so great and still unmatched and unsurpassed to this day. Quality, price and looks apart, this BMD controller looks just like any other failed attempt at an editing controller since the 80's. Many tried to do what the Lightworks Console got right. None succeeded.

If this was designed while watching the Console, the designer wasn't really looking. Totally misses the mark.

There have been many controllers but only one Console.

If this succeeds where others besides the Lightworks Console failed it will probably be due to the ultra low price and their software giveaway business model.
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Re: Anybody notice BMD have finally released a 'Console' for Resolve? 1 month, 4 weeks ago #231506

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ArteD wrote:
There have been many controllers but only one Console.

Well, they should bring the Console back, for a start.
I like Lightworks.

Re: Anybody notice BMD have finally released a 'Console' for Resolve? 1 month, 4 weeks ago #231507

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A good starting point could be a few ten users of this forum committing themselves to purchase a Lightworks console at a price of 2,500 GBP (excluding taxes), as soon as it is available.

I won't be one of them.
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Last Edit: 1 month, 4 weeks ago by hugly.

Re: Anybody notice BMD have finally released a 'Console' for Resolve? 1 month, 4 weeks ago #231516

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hugly wrote:
A good starting point could be a few ten users of this forum committing themselves to purchase a Lightworks console at a price of 2,500 GBP (excluding taxes), as soon as it is available.

I won't be one of them.

Oh, the loss!

This is not how these things work. You have Kickstarter for this type of nonsensical approach.

A 2500GBP device is not a realistic proposition (never was).

And yes, it can be made much cheaper.
I like Lightworks.
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