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Re: MKII not working anymore 4 months, 3 weeks ago #225982

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IN the case of the console, this is a specialist item, I would assume made by a manufacturer who makes either small batches or small production runs. These types of items tend to be rather expensive because there's not enough scale to being down the costs. I gather this is concern for the new owners and they are considering the best approach.

Certainly it would involve an investment to create new stock of the current console for the high end editors, which, by it's nature, would be an expensive and slow moving item. If it was for the camera end of the film & TV industry, it would be regarded as within the normal price range of many accessories. However, in the post production world it's now at the top end, especially when compared to other professional controllers.

Shuttle Pro is a general item, which can be used with a wide range of software. Looking at it from the outside, the Shuttle Pro is designed for mass production, which will keep down the costs. The Lightworks version was a rebadged version of the standard Shuttle Pro. I don't know if there are any plans to do this again.

They need to know the market they're aiming for and if it's worth keeping the current console design or is it worth approaching one of the current controller manufacturers for a Lightworks version of a current product.

Re: MKII not working anymore 4 months, 3 weeks ago #225988

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Henry51 wrote:
Don't understand this manufacturers. With this price they sell probably none - a reasonable price and they would sell hundreds!
It's very unfortunate your Console has broken down - it provides a very special way if working with LW, however it is also true the Console may not feel like the right tool for some users.

The price of the console had not changed since Alacrity was the main LW product, even so it was not affordable for most current users and LW advises it was being sold at an unsustainable loss. There has been much recent interest and conversation about the console, no doubt the LW people are aware of it and hopefully they will come up with some form of unexpected solution; the Console is an important point of difference between LW and all others.

While it may not be significant that the Console features in the image used for the half price Pro Licence promotion; it would be an odd oversight if it was already determined there will never ever be another Console production run in any form.

Seems that you are a past VIP user. Imperfect though the marriage between LW and the Profile Disk Recorder may have been it was the most impressive LW system. When LW code was being 'modernised' in the Keith Gee era he used to say the VIP code was retained and updated.

One can only speculate about what might be possible today - with high bandwidth multi I/O cards and multi GPU interfaces. A LW system capable of multi stream real-time 8k on an affordable computer system but of course requiring professional level media subsystems from EditShare - why not?
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Re: MKII not working anymore 4 months, 3 weeks ago #225989

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Yes. I liked the VIP. It was a very stable system but more for News editing than movie. I used the old Lightworks with Mark I console for bigger projects and Online them on the VIP!
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Re: MKII not working anymore 4 months, 3 weeks ago #225990

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We did much the same - all our VIPs did an honest day's work. One of our VIP systems was installed in a broadcaster's building - serviced a number of Heavyworks and Touch off-line suites, was booked by the hour and worked from 6.00am to after midnight all week.
After hours and on weekends we'd bring in 'foreign orders'.

We helped a local specialist house develop a line of Profile compatible media drive expansion chassis - they were eventually marketed by Tektronix as an affordable alternative - and were the backbone of our storage capacity at much lower than Tektronix prices.

We had the same mixer on our VIPs but VTRs were always in a machine room - we did multi VTR autoconforms to the VIP- it was less than perfect - didn't always calculate VTR spooling time vey well - but still very usable - even if we found it better sometimes to cancel an autoconform list and rebuild it to better distribute remaining workload to the VTRs.
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