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two monitors 1 week, 3 days ago #207555

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LW recommends "Two high-resolution displays (1920 x1080) or above."

Do these have to be of the same resolution? If no, is there a downside to using an HD monitor and a 4K?

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Re: two monitors 1 week, 1 day ago #207634

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I run 1080p on my laptop screen with a 4k external monitor.
As long as your GPU supports it, no real issues, but it 4k might slow your timeline performance a bit.
You will need to run an extended desktop to do this.
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Re: two monitors 1 week, 1 day ago #207670

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Thanks David.
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Re: two monitors 3 days, 13 hours ago #207965

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Hi geo,

One downside I've run into running Flexible mode with a 4K monitor and a 1080p monitor, is that when you stretch Lightworks to span both monitors it doesn't change resolution. The result (in my case) is that the second monitor doesn't work as a canvas for bins, etc. -- the Lightworks window is just too big.

It's ok for me, because I'm using my second monitor now as a full screen preview window, but it's a limitation I've run into (if anyone has a workaround though I'm all ears!).

Re: two monitors 2 days, 13 hours ago #208063

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Yeah, my 4K is used either for full screen video only for grading, or much of the time by itself for editing since it is a 32" monitor.
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Re: two monitors 2 days, 11 hours ago #208074

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Mixing a 4k and an HD monitor, at least on Linux, is a dumb idea. Several problems arise, one of which is that it breaks the LW GUI:
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Re: two monitors 2 days, 10 hours ago #208077

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Re: two monitors 2 days, 9 hours ago #208078

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Hi hugly -- Thanks. Thought about that fix, but don't have a /usr/bin/lightworks folder. The different resolutions don't play well together on this system, so I'm running one monitor until another 4k arrives.
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Re: two monitors 2 days, 8 hours ago #208082

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Have a second look, the file '/usr/bin/lightworks' should be there. To change the content, edit it as administrator.

I've always used two identical monitors for spanned desktops (read: same manufacturer/model), not only because of Lightworks. It's almost impossible to adjust different monitor types to match visual impression and different resolution make things even more difficult. If you can strictly separate the function (e.g. editing / full screen preview), it might be acceptable, but from my point of view, mixing displays isn't good for an all day/all apps setup.
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Re: two monitors 2 days, 6 hours ago #208086

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hugly wrote:

I've always used two identical monitors for spanned desktops (read: same manufacturer/model), not only because of Lightworks. It's almost impossible to adjust different monitor types to match visual impression and different resolution make things even more difficult. If you can strictly separate the function (e.g. editing / full screen preview), it might be acceptable, but from my point of view, mixing displays isn't good for an all day/all apps setup.


In practice though, is it too much to ask for the software to adapt? I've been in post-production houses where you edit on a 5K iMac and have a lower resolution monitor as a secondary display -- you get the benefits of more screen resolution for your main work area and a preview monitor that works just as well. Or what if you're editing on a laptop and want to hook it up to a 1440p display? Should the software just... not be functional anymore?

In my case buying a second callibrated 4K display is... uh, expensive, lol. I've thought about it. But on my current set-up, working in Premiere for a client it's totally functional having a lower resolution display because of how their window system works:

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It looks a little ridiculous side by side but in real life it's very useable:

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EDIT: Premiere's not perfect either; full screen playback doesn't work properly for me on 4K yet either lol! Something LWKS has no problem with.
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Re: two monitors 2 days ago #208096

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Broke down and followed suggestions and directions [for both, thanks] and finally got LW working properly. HD monitor is used for Full Screen preview. But am unable to configure different magnifications levels in the monitors in Ubuntu 18.04, thus rendering the second monitor worthless for other tasks. Seems equal-resolution monitors are the only way to go for general use.
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Re: two monitors 1 day, 20 hours ago #208108

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SepiaStudios wrote:
In practice though, is it too much to ask for the software to adapt?

Software which supports multiple displays with different resolutions properly, handles one main window per display, including layout and scaling of all objects, whereas Lightworks (except of the full screen preview) allows spanning the canvas across multiple monitors, it handles the main window as one entity. The latter allows more than two displays for the main window on multiple platforms, but it works best with displays of the same resolution and can be used in a meaningful way only with the classic layout.

I can imagine that we will see a multi display version of the Fixed layout with some future release, but that's just guessing and surely a major change.
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Re: two monitors 1 day, 13 hours ago #208119

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hugly wrote:
SepiaStudios wrote:
In practice though, is it too much to ask for the software to adapt?

Software which supports multiple displays with different resolutions properly, handles one main window per display, including layout and scaling of all objects, whereas Lightworks (except of the full screen preview) allows spanning the canvas across multiple monitors, it handles the main window as one entity. The latter allows more than two displays for the main window on multiple platforms, but it works best with displays of the same resolution and can be used in a meaningful way only with the classic layout.

I can imagine that we will see a multi display version of the Fixed layout with some future release, but that's just guessing and surely a major change.


Oh totally -- that's something I thought was novel about Lightworks' canvas approach that you could span it as wide as you want. (I feel like we all need badges to show whether we use Flexible or Fixed mode, haha, because I always forget about the Fixed layout).

I think my feelings are connected to this thread. I set-up Lightworks on my younger sibling's computer this year, and I enjoyed using Lightworks on his two 1080p monitor set-up more than on mine(!). It was like an "aha" moment for me -- just felt great. That experience and this thread are teaching me that Lightworks is designed with a dual-screen 1080p environment (with maybe a third screen for preview) which makes sense -- historically -- but I'd love to feel that great feeling on higher resolutions or mixed displays as well. Because, truthfully, it's hard to recommend the software to an editor friend for their next feature film if it requires them to buy a specific display; they kind of need it to just work!

Avid, Premiere, or even Blender are able to handle detached windows (in addition, Resolve is a good example of a "fixed" interface with a dedicated Dual Screen toggle). Know this kind of stuff is a big thing, I'm not expecting the next Beta version to have this in it, but it's stuff like this I'll be looking for in Lightworks 2021.

In any case my rambling is disconnected from the OP's questions. Glad geomcd got their set-up working!!
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Re: two monitors 1 day, 7 hours ago #208140

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@Sepia -- Rambling is an enjoyable element of this worldwide community. Please to continue. Moderators aren't shy about shutting us down when we get overly goofy.

For Ubuntu users, the following was posted on Ubuntu Forums on Nov. 17, 2019 by a longtime user [CatKiller]:

"Being able to set display parameters, like scaling or refresh rate, independently for different displays is an area of active development."
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