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No milestones from identical edits [feature] 3 days, 12 hours ago #209156

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With the delete key pressed for key repeat it's possible to fill all milestones with identical content within seconds. Maybe other editing actions of that kind exist.

I suggest not saving editing actions as milestones (maybe even not as undo steps) which don't change the structure of the timeline.
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Last Edit: 3 days, 12 hours ago by hugly.

Re: No milestones from identical edits [feature] 2 days, 11 hours ago #209200

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hugly wrote:
I suggest not saving editing actions … maybe even not as undo steps...
Wait a minute: I definitely want to be able to perform an undo for - every - action I take. Otherwise the undo would become absurd.
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Re: No milestones from identical edits [feature] 2 days, 11 hours ago #209201

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Just do what I describe above and see what your undo steps reveal.
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Re: No milestones from identical edits [feature] 2 days, 11 hours ago #209204

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I usually use the good old ^ key for it (or Alt & ^ for redo).
I will give yours a try next time.
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Re: No milestones from identical edits [feature] 2 days, 10 hours ago #209207

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My initial explanation seems to be not clear enough. The problem isn't the undo, the problem is that it is possible to create meaningless undo steps and milestones.

Just press the Delete-key (or the X-key or the C-key) to create an empty cut and hold the key down for a few seconds. All your undo steps and all milestones will show the same sequence.

Edit: In other words, an empty cut applied on an empty cut doesn't change the sequence - it is a null operation. Nevertheless, operations of that kind are saved as undo steps and milestones. If we would have endless undo steps, that wouldn't be an issue, but we don't.
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Re: No milestones from identical edits [feature] 2 days, 10 hours ago #209209

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Doesn't this run counter to what you said in a previous thread?

www.lwks.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=27&id=184930&Itemid=81#184930

I'm not sure if holding down the "c" or "x" keys can be regarded as a normal operation.

Re: No milestones from identical edits [feature] 2 days, 9 hours ago #209210

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To say it in clearer word: I find the logic of saving null operations idiotic, in particular on a system with highly limited undo steps.

If you're asking if I'm satisfied with the way lightworks creates and saves undo steps, no I am not.
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Last Edit: 2 days, 9 hours ago by hugly.

Re: No milestones from identical edits [feature] 2 days, 8 hours ago #209213

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I assume you want hold to be disabled from certain keys.

Re: No milestones from identical edits [feature] 2 days, 7 hours ago #209214

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I can imagine that there are more sophisticated implementations of this request.

As with any feature request, it may or may not be categorized as useful or important. Developers might treat it as heads up for preventing what the milestones show here.
www.lwks.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=14&id=208627&limit=15&limitstart=15&Itemid=81#208681
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Re: No milestones from identical edits [feature] 2 days, 7 hours ago #209215

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If you hold down the "x" and "c" keys you can't always undo an empty cut or a delete (they seem to act in a similar way if you don't mark and park the later). Preventing that may prevent someone unintentionally running into the issue.

Re: No milestones from identical edits [feature] 1 day, 15 hours ago #209295

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Maybe what he just meant is that if you do 2 or more identical actions after another, it would be sufficient to have one undo step for all of it...?
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Re: No milestones from identical edits [feature] 1 day, 14 hours ago #209297

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Not identical actions, but a series of NULL OPERATIONS, operations which don't change the structure of the edit.
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Last Edit: 1 day, 14 hours ago by hugly.
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