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Separate scales for level and gain [feature] 4 months ago #193838

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Due to the fact that the scale above zero is useless for audio level metering, but useful for slider adjustment, you might consider inventing a second scale, one for level metering, one for slider adjustments (gain), the latter lower than the metering scale which would add value by increasing free space on the lower part of the meter by dropping "headroom" above zero of the level scale, so the meter scale below can be extended to, let's say, -60dB?
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Re: Separate scales for level and gain [feature] 4 months ago #193842

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Due to the fact that the scale above zero is useless


That is false.

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Re: Separate scales for level and gain [feature] 4 months ago #193843

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I think it's best for me to simply ignore some contributions and let others decide about the truth.
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Re: Separate scales for level and gain [feature] 4 months ago #193846

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For the seekers of truth - here's another one I baked in anticipation.
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Re: Separate scales for level and gain [feature] 4 months ago #193856

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hugly wrote:
I think it's best for me to simply ignore some contributions and let others decide about the truth.

Just so that other users here can evaluate this, what are your film industry qualifications hugly? I know that RWAV has been a film and TV post-production professional for longer than I can remember, with Lightworks experience of over 25 years. I would appreciate knowing what your qualifications are so that we have a basis to compare the relative worth of his and your opinions.
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Re: Separate scales for level and gain [feature] 4 months ago #193857

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I suspect the single scale for both levels and gain slider is for compactness.

The repeated request to have the option to change the size of the flexible layout's audio mixer would, perhaps, be more useful.

I don't know how much the requirements of Flow Story users would affect the UI of the fixed layout regarding a feature like the mixer.
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Re: Separate scales for level and gain [feature] 4 months ago #193859

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Regarding the position of Flow Story in the promoted workflow, I suspect, there isn't much audio work done in Flow Story but, Lightworks needs a better instrument for mixing and mastering, indeed.
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Re: Separate scales for level and gain [feature] 4 months ago #193860

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May be there isn't much audio mastering done in Flow Story, I don't know, but given the number of people using laptops (Flow story and Lightworks users) taking up more real estate on small screens does become a factor. Even more so when you increase the number of tracks.

Re: Separate scales for level and gain [feature] 4 months ago #193861

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The mixer is essential. It should provide controls and meters according to modern industry standards, not over featured but precise and controllable. The things are there, second movers can collect the best.
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Re: Separate scales for level and gain [feature] 4 months ago #193862

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Looking at another NLE that has your suggested feature, each track takes up more space than on Lightworks. So, it's probably more appropriate for the Flexible layout than the fixed layout, which appears to be designed to cater for smaller screen, as found on Laptops.

Some laptops used for editing on the road have pretty small screens.

Re: Separate scales for level and gain [feature] 4 months ago #193863

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Now, that we'll see soon how scrollable timelines look in Lightworks, there are scrollable mixers on the market. No need to sacrifice functionality to display size/resolution. If they decide to use a 10 inch for video editing, let'em scroll.
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Re: Separate scales for level and gain [feature] 3 months, 4 weeks ago #193875

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The Lightworks mixer may have a crude GUI by DAW standards, but it fully conforms to international audio standards. There are no issues with performance at all in a properly gain structured hardware setup.
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Re: Separate scales for level and gain [feature] 3 months, 4 weeks ago #193882

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The current arrangement should work well for those needing to edit on a flight or in the back of a car with their laptop.

As I mentioned earlier, the option of changing the size of the flexible layout mixer would be worth having. The current size is on the small end of the scale.
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Re: Separate scales for level and gain [feature] 3 months, 4 weeks ago #193906

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Just to say as a bottom line, as soon as sliders are away from zero on any channel, we do not have any valid meter scale on the instrument.
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Last Edit: 3 months, 4 weeks ago by hugly.
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